There's not a lot of listening anymore from anybody with anybody.

And when you really listen, you learn a lot of things.

And I know that the world is filled with need and with opportunity.

And we could fix all of these.

If not fix, we could improve all of these problems.

A 10% improvement would be glorious for everybody.

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I had the privilege of meeting Lee through his podcast, and I'm very, very excited to have him on mine. Lee Wachner, counterintuity. Thank you so much

for being on your brand amplified. It's a delight to be here. I really enjoyed our previous

discussion and this feels like an opportunity to have more of that great time and exchange some

wisdom and learn some things.

So I'm really pleased to be here. Thank you, Anika.

Oh, very welcome. And forgive me that I didn't even realize until maybe a little bit before

we were recording yours that we were just on opposite sides of the same city.

And you were nodding along when I was talking about Junior League of Los Angeles and different

things. And so I was like, all right, we probably have some people in common more than I realized

as well, which we did find out. And so you, yeah, are. People don't, you know, people don't,

including the people who live here, don't realize that

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