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Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Redefine Your Relationship with Fear | Tony Blauer

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Dr. Michael Gervais

Sport Psychology, Finding Mastery, Mental Health, Mindfulness, Business, Self Help, Michael Gervais, Health & Fitness, Mindset, Psychology, Self-improvement, Education

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2021

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

This week’s conversation is with Tony Blauer, a coach in the martial art, self-defense, defensive tactics, and combatives industry for over four decades.

He founded Blauer Tactical Systems (BTS) in 1985 and it has grown into one of the world's leading consulting companies specializing in the research and development of performance psychology, personal safety, and close quarter tactics & scenario-based training for law enforcement, military, and professional self-defense instructors.

After decades of interviewing victims of violent encounters and studying violence, he also created the KNOW FEAR® program which focuses on managing fear through self-awareness, resiliency, and a 'movement' mindset. This program has also been integrated by psychologists helping Vets to deal with PTSD.

You may be familiar with Tony’s work from his first time on Finding Mastery in early 2020 (episode #208).

The world has changed quite a bit since then so I wanted to have Tony back on to further discuss his approach to combatting fear.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Our fear loop is red, our duress path is yellow, and then flow state switched on leaning in as green.

0:06.6

And so I've got these three colors there.

0:09.8

If I say to you, Mike, I want you to do this right away and you stop and you go, I wonder if that'll work out.

0:17.4

Tony wants me to do that right away.

0:20.0

While you're deliberating, you're in what I call the fear loop, meaning there's no action.

0:25.5

You're not doing anything.

0:26.5

You're in your mind right now.

0:28.9

The moment you start to move, but you're still wondering, is this going to work out?

0:34.0

I hope I prepared properly.

0:35.9

It's the duress path.

0:37.4

And so we never want to be in the red.

0:41.4

We always want to be in yellow or green.

0:52.7

Okay, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast.

0:57.7

I'm Michael Jervé, and by trade and training, I am a sport and performance psychologist.

1:02.9

And the whole idea behind these conversations is to learn from people who are on the path of mastery.

1:07.9

To better understand what they're searching for, their psychological framework, of how they understand the world and see themselves in it, how they explain events in their life.

1:16.7

We also want to understand the mental skills that they use to build and refine their craft.

1:21.8

And if you want to learn more about how you can train your mind,

1:25.7

just like some of the world class thinkers and doers in this podcast, as well as some of the folks I've been fortunate to work with as a professional.

1:33.2

This is just a quick little reminder here to check out the online course that I created with a head coach at the Seattle Sea Hawks Peak Carol.

1:39.6

And you can do that at finding mastery.net forward slash course.

1:45.7

Finding Mastery is brought to you by nets.com here at the Finding Mastery lab.

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