Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox.

Welcome to With Friends Like These.

This is a re-broadcast of one of my favorite episodes of the show that we have ever done.

I'm sorry to say that doesn't mean it's like a fun listen or like a hilarious listen.

What's great about it is that it gets right into the nitty gritty of the very cultural

phenomenon that made me want to do this show.

Older white Americans deciding to go full fringe conservative throwing in with Pepe the

frog and QAnon and of course Donald Trump not in that order.

A listener was generous enough to call in and lay out her specific and very distressing

situation.

And then Washington Post reporter and friend of the pod Eli Sazlo joined me to discuss

why it is that this is happening and why it seems to be happening more and more and

everywhere.

And Hannah Ponder whether there is anything that can be done about it.

It is my sincere wish that this episode is not relevant to you, especially not right

now.

But if it is put in your earbuds, sit tight.

We're here to help.

Welcome to the show, Holly.

Thanks for having me.

So before we dive in, just tell us a little bit about who you are.

Give us some context.

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