Feel the Burn with Anne Helen Petersen

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Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

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4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2020

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Anne Helen Petersen (@annehelen) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) this week to talk about exactly what you fear when you return to work or school after the holidays: burnout. They discuss what burnout is doing to Millenials (and younger generations) and why the root of the problem is, you guessed it, capitalism. Finally, they examine what one church has done to combat burnout at its economic root, and how their own relationship to religion has healed their burnout. Thanks to our sponsors! Grove’s sustainable swap set is the best and easiest way to get started reducing plastics waste in your home - it has Bamboo straws, Reusable and washable sandwich bags, a Refillable hand soap dispenser, gel hand soap, and a walnut scrubber sponge set. Now, for a limited time when our listeners go to Grove.co/FRIENDS you’ll get the FREE FIVE PIECE set from Grove so you can easily swap out plastics. Plus, you’ll get free shipping AND a free 60-day VIP trial! Stamps.com brings all the services of the U.S. Postal Service right to your computer. There’s NO risk. And with promo code, FRIENDS, you get a special offer that includes a 4-week trial PLUS free postage and a digital scale. No long-term commitments or contracts. We deserve to know what we’re putting in our bodies and why. That’s why Ritual’s founder is on a mission to reinvent the vitamin industry. Get 10% off during your first three months at ritual.com/FRIENDS.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox and welcome back to With Friends Like These.
0:09.6	We had a bit of a break, perhaps you had a bit of a break too, but there's something
0:15.3	about having had a break from work that just reminds you of how real the struggle is.
0:22.2	It feels like January is actually a really good time to be discussing burnout.
0:28.4	I just got back from a break and I'm already feeling it.
0:32.1	Maybe you are too.
0:33.7	Everyone experiences burnout.
0:36.0	It's probably been with us since Eve got restless in the garden and there's been a
0:40.7	particularly American aspect to burnout since Thoreau left the pencil factory to live
0:47.4	in the woods.
0:48.4	But my guest this week, Buzzfeed writer and Helen Peterson, she makes a compelling argument
0:54.2	that the millennial generation is generation burnout.
0:58.8	That there's something specific and troublesome about the form and pervasiveness that burnout
1:04.3	takes among those raised in the shadow of the housing market collapse and in the middle
1:10.1	of the forever war.
1:13.0	We talk about that this week.
1:14.7	There is much discussion of what she refers to as the seaword capitalism and having named
1:20.8	the enemy capitalism.
1:22.8	We also discuss the ways that resistance to capitalism is a way out of burnout.
1:29.0	A path that Anne wrote about in a different essay that I think also went viral, a piece
1:34.6	telling the story of the Jubilee Baptist Church in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
1:40.8	I admit, for a conversation that is almost entirely about burnout, I found our discussion
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