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The Next Level

Red-Pilled (with Tom Arnold)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Actor and comedian Tom Arnold joins Tim to discuss his journey from comedy into anti-Trump politics.

He also delves into his background growing up in a white working class family, as well his split from Roseanne Barr and her embrace of right-wing conspiracies. Plus some good old fashioned GOP-bashing for fun!

And at the top of the show, Tim gives his reaction to Democratic Rep. Dean Phillips launching a presidential primary campaign against President Joe Biden.

Note: This episode was taped on October 16, 2023, prior to Rep. Mike Johnson becoming Speaker of the House.

Watch Tim interview Tom on The Bulwark's official YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/POmADsZYOYY

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullworks next level Sunday interview. I'm your host Tim Miller

0:04.4

We got Tom Arnold today and I gotta tell you we you know we did some comedy and we did some funny stuff for a guy called the the forest

0:11.0

Gump of the resistance, but we also, I think, really cover some serious

0:16.4

topics about reaching out to Maga World and his relationship with Rosanne and her getting

0:21.2

red-pilled and him coming from a you know very

0:24.1

magga part of the world in Iowa a factory town what he's seen from the

0:31.0

folks that that grew up there and what that tells them about how you

0:36.4

maybe we can reintegrate these folks and and bring some people back into the

0:41.4

light so we have I think a really nice chat with Tom Arnold including some funny

0:47.0

Memories from you know the 90s glory days

0:51.6

But before we get to him I wanted to talk a little bit about Dean Phillips

0:56.9

that Arnold interview was taped about a week and a half ago and we had to push it

1:01.9

back because of the news in Israel. And so, you know, I think almost

1:06.6

all of the stuff that we discuss is still very timely. But we've obviously had a ton of news since then we've

1:14.6

a live show in New Orleans since then thank you to everybody that came and the big

1:19.1

thing that has happened since we last got together was Dean Phillips, Congressman from Minnesota,

1:25.7

officially getting into the race against Joe Biden.

1:28.0

So I wanted to give you a quick rant about that

1:31.0

before we get to Arnold. And here's the thing. I actually am

1:35.4

sympathetic to the idea that maybe somebody should have got into the race against

1:39.8

Joe Biden to provide an alternative just on the merits of the fact that we, you know,

1:44.0

somebody that's 82 years old, I think that there's a legitimate question about

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