Hey there, it's JVL. On the secret show with Sarah Longwell today, we talked about the brand new speaker of the house, Mike Johnson.

And also Dean Phillips, who's decided he's going to run against Joe Biden for some reason.

Whatever, here's the show.

So, well, we have another Democratic challenger to Joe Biden. He jumped in yesterday. His name is Dean Phillips. He is a handsome man in a tech fest. I guess following the

departure in the race of RFK Jr. Dean Phillips is going to carry it.

And his campaign is being run by Steve Schmidt,

who briefly ran the Howard Schultz,

Starbucks campaign, which was...

Can you explain this to me?

Because I don't understand it.

I legitimately don't understand it if you are a young Democrat who thinks that like you know I'm just gonna stop talking please talk

Okay, so here's the thing. I do understand it.

I understand where this is coming from on a number of fronts.

There is a genuine sense of panic among Democrats right now about Joe Biden.

As there should be.

Yeah, I would say and we have talked about this a great many times.

The time to lose your mind about this and freak out

was like 10 months ago.

There was no reason, I don't know,

I guess it's because there's been such consistent head-to-head polling that has got people

so worried.

And there is, like, when they do, it's not just the national polling.

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