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Bodybacks with Joseph Scott Moore.

Many people think about the dead, and one of the names that is probably most prominent among the dead is, or are the terms John Doe and Jane Doe.

What does that mean?

Well, as an old death investigator, it means to me that the person, at least when we began

to work on the case, didn't have a specific identity.

But in our hearts, we know that that person that lay before us without a driver's license,

without a family, maybe without dental records, was held in the arms of a mother at some point in time.

It was loved and caressed, but for that instant, when we in the medical legal profession

enter onto the stage, they're nameless.

But for me, it holds a special meeting.

Coming to you live from Denver, Crime Con, 2025.

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is body bags.

I got to do a shout out real quick to the best producer and best friend that I would say as an adult I have ever had, other than my wife Kimmy.

All right.

When you sit across a mic from somebody for a long, long time now, and we're heading toward,

I don't know, 450 episodes, and we've known each other prior to that.

You get to learn a lot about a person.

And so I'm very grateful to Dave Mack.

Dave Mack, my friend.

So give it up for Dave.

And plus, I want you to give it up to us because we're at the mercy of Nancy Grace.

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