Reconciling You, Me, & Us In Our Relationships w/ Gwynyth Paltrow’s Relationship Expert - Terry Real

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Kevin Miller

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🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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In 2022 I was deep into therapy regarding my marriage and myself. My counselor at the time recommended a book, “I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression,” by a therapist named Terry Real. I read the book and opened up a whole new level of understanding about myself. Terry then released a book titled US: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship, which my therapist also recommended. Shortly after I was contacted by an agency about having Terry on this podcast. He was being touted as actress Gwyneth Paltrow’s favorite relational therapist and was being praised by actor Bradley Cooper, psychotherapist Esther Perel, and the forward to the book is a candid, vulnerable story from Bruce Springsteen where he shares, “At age thirty two I hit an emotional wall and realized I was lost in a deep dark forest, largely of my own making, without a map. So began forty years of trying to find my way through the shadowed trees, down to the river of a sustaining life. Terry Real has been a guide and this book is a map through those trees.” For me the book revealed much about how I perceived a separateness in my relationships that was not helping create connection and intimacy. In Us, Terry showcases how we culturally live as “you and me” when the bedrock of our being is us. I agree. Find Terry at terryreal.com. Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast for your personal evolution in this episode,
0:08.4	reconciling you, me, and us in our relationships. In 2022, I was deep into therapy regarding my
0:18.5	marriage and just myself.
0:24.1	My counselor at the time recommended a book for me titled, I Don't Want to Talk About It, Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression.
0:29.6	It was by a therapist named Terry Real.
0:32.6	I read the book, it opened up a lot of understanding about myself.
0:38.5	Well, Terry soon after released a new book titled Us,
0:42.7	Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship.
0:46.8	My therapist recommended this as well,
0:49.3	and shortly after, I was actually contacted by an agency
0:52.4	about having Terry on the podcast. He was being
0:57.2	touted as actress Gwyneth Paltrow's favorite relational therapist and was being praised by
1:03.8	actor Bradley Cooper and psychotherapist Esther Perel. And the forward to this new book was actually
1:10.5	a candid and vulnerable story from
1:12.9	Bruce Springsteen, where he actually shared this statement. He said at age 32, I hit an emotional
1:19.1	wall and realized I was lost in a deep, dark forest, largely of my own making and without a map.
1:25.9	So began 40 years of trying to find my way through the shadowed
1:29.5	trees down to the river of a sustaining life. Terry Reel has been a guide and this book is a map
1:35.7	through those trees. Well, for me, then the book revealed a lot about how I perceived a separateness in my relationships that was not helping
1:47.5	create connection and intimacy. So in this book, Us, Terry Reel showcases how we culturally live as
1:55.8	generally you and me when the bedrock of our being is us. You can find Terry at T-E-R-R-R-E-A-L.com.
2:07.5	Coming up next is my discussion sitting down with therapist Terry Real to talk about us and how we can
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