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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of RECOde.

You may know me as someone who is not easily word pressed, but in my spare time,

I talk tech and you're listening to RECOde Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Person who you're laughing and is in the red chair today is Matt Mullinwag, the co-founder of WordPress.

It's been 15 years since it began.

WordPress now powers nearly a third of the websites on the internet.

Matt's company Automatic has 740 employees, but no physical office still.

It's also the owner of Longreads and just acquired another media startup, the out of this.

And I know him for how long we know forever and all things D was on WordPress forever.

And so it was RECOde.

It was one of the first ever VIP sites in the world.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

It was. And so we're going to talk about that and actually we'll talk about like a little snafu that just happened with it.

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