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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large at RECode.

You may know me as someone who is always uncensored, but in my spare time I talk tech

and you're listening to RECode decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Today in the red chair is Adam Fisher. He's the author of a new oral history book

called Valley of Genius, the uncensored history of Silicon Valley as told to me

by the hackers, founders and freaks who made it boom.

He's also written for wired MIT technology review and the New York Times magazine.

Adam, welcome to RECode decode.

Thank you.

You've been working on this for a while. You contacted me how long ago?

Five years ago.

Five years ago, right? I thought that. I was like, oh, he's back.

So why don't you talk a little bit about your background and then how you decided to do this?

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