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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Recode. You may know me as someone who would never be picked to run the White House,

but in my spare time, I talked tech and you're listening to Recode decode from the box media podcast network.

Today in the red chair is Valerie Jarrod, who is a senior advisor to President Barack Obama while he was in the White House.

These days, she's a senior advisor to the Obama Foundation is on the board of several tech companies, including Lyft,

and has just released a new book called Finding My Voice, My Journey to the West Wing and the Path Forward.

Jarrod got her start in politics in Chicago, where she worked for Mayor's Harold Washington and Richard Daly.

While serving as Daly's deputy chief of staff, she recruited a young lawyer named Michelle Robinson.

She was hot on the idea, but she said to me her fiance wasn't so hot on the idea when she discussed it with him.

And I said, well, who's your fiance? Why don't we care what he thinks?

And she said, well, his name is Barack Obama, and he started his career as a community organizer,

and he's concerned about me going right into the fire.

We'll also talk about how Jarrod felt when she saw Roseanne Barr tweeting racist insults about her last year.

Look, I'm fine. I'm well loved. I put myself in the arena.

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