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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Tom Friedman

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2016

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Pulitzer Prize-winning author and New York Times columnist Tom Friedman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "Thank You for Being Late: An Optimist's Guide to Thriving in the Age of Accelerations." As technology and globalization get ever faster, Friedman says, humans should double down on the values, skills and behaviors that computers can't perform. Reacting to the rise of president-elect Trump, Friedman says "we’ve gone too far" in shaping policies to benefit people who have made poor life decisions, and calls for everyone to become more entrepreneurial. Friedman also discusses why he doesn't use Facebook or Twitter, and why the reactions of companies like Google and Facebook to fake news are "bullshit." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:11.8

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0:20.6

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0:26.0

Recode Radio presents Recode Decode, hosted by Cara Swisher, powered by digital media.

0:33.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, executive editor of Recode.

0:36.0

You may know me as a person learning to fly drone so I can buzz Trump Tower,

0:40.0

but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode, a podcast about tech and media's key players, big ideas and how they're changing the world we live in.

0:48.0

You can subscribe to Recode Decode at iTunes.com slash Recode Decode, and while you're there, leave us a review.

0:55.0

Today in the red chair is Tom Friedman, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who writes about foreign affairs, globalization and technology for the New York Times.

1:03.0

He's the author of several bestselling books including The World is Flat and his latest book is called Thank You for Being Late,

1:09.0

an Optimus Guide to Thriving in the Age of Accelerations. I've known Tom for a while.

1:14.0

I remember you came to one of my talks on AOL in the 90s.

1:18.0

Welcome to Recode Decode.

1:20.0

Great to be here, Cara.

1:21.0

So talk a little bit about this book. Now you wrote The World is Flat, which was about these themes, the idea that we are all being brought together by technology for good or worse, really.

1:31.0

Talk about the title. Thank you for being late.

1:33.0

So the title comes from meeting people in Washington DC for breakfast while I live.

1:38.0

I don't like to waste breakfast by eating alone, when I can learn from somebody.

1:42.0

So I schedule a lot of breakfast, and it works well. Someone would come 10, 15 minutes late.

1:47.0

Tom really starts the weather, the traffic, the subway, the dog, my homework.

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