When you drive a Chevy electric vehicle, you're getting more than a way to get from point A to point B.

You're saying goodbye to gas stations and how low to open roads.

With the growing network of public charging stations, you'll be able to charge your EV while you shop, work, or do whatever you want to be doing with your time.

Chevy is making EVs for everyone, everywhere. Go to chevrelay.com slash electric to learn more.

I'm Gideon Litchfield. I'm the editor-in-chief of Wired.

And I'm Lauren Good. I'm a senior writer at Wired.

We're making a new show. Have a nice future.

I'm more have a nice future, question mark.

It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.

We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.

We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face about the challenges they're creating and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.

So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode.

You may know me as someone who thinks Mozilla should start a cable channel about the latest updates to its browser and call it Firefox News.

But in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode Decode, a podcast about power change, and the people you need to know around tech and beyond were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Today in the red chair is Mark Sermon, the executive director of the Mozilla Foundation.

It's a nonprofit focused on advocacy research and the, quote, Internet Health Movement.

But it also owns the Mozilla Corporation, which makes the popular web browser Firefox, Mark, welcome to Recode Decode.

So Mark, let's talk a little bit about the Mozilla Foundation, what it is.

So people understand it, always confuses people.

I've written what it was a million times in stories I've written about the Mozilla browser versus the for-profit part of it, explain the whole how it's set up the Mozilla Corporation is set up.

Well, it's interesting. Any time I give a talk, I sort of ask people to raise their hand.

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