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Recode Radio presents Recode Decode, hosted by Cara Swisher, powered by digital media.

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, executive editor of Recode. You may know me as a brilliant jerk,

although not the kind that works at Uber. But in my spare time I talk tech and you're

listening to Recode Decode, a podcast about tech and media's key players, big ideas

and how they're changing the world we live in. You can subscribe to Recode Decode at iTunes.com slash

Recode Decode and while you're there, leave us a review. Today in the red chair is Kim

Malone Scott, the author of a new book about leadership called Radical Cander, be a kick-ass boss

without losing your humanity. Kim previously worked at both Google and Apple and has advised

CEOs at companies like Qualtrics, Dropbox and Twitter. She and I spoke in front of a live audience

a couple weeks ago at the optimizely office in San Francisco. Let's take a listen.

All right, Kim. Let's start talking about your background. I know you don't want to,

you want to talk about the book mostly, but of course, your background is really, really interesting.

I've been lucky. I had a lot of cool jobs. So what do you talk about where you worked? And obviously,

Google was probably one of the biggest places. Google was one of the biggest. Before Google,

there were three failed startups. So Google worked out a lot better. I also started a diamond-cutting

factory in Moscow before Google and led a pediatric clinic in Kosovo. Those failed startups?

Well, that's an addition to the three-builds. They're different about that background.

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