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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Jared Leto

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2017

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

"Blade Runner 2049" actor Jared Leto talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about portraying Niander Wallace, a trillionaire tech mogul. By the start of the new movie, Wallace has saved humanity from starvation and rebooted the development of humanlike robots, known as Replicants. Leto, who is also a musician and tech investor, says he chooses to be optimistic about the future in spite of the movie's dystopian tone and explains how he approached playing an antagonist to Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford. (Spoiler warning: This episode discusses the themes and story of "Blade Runner 2049," including the fate of some of the major characters.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you're looking for a new podcast to try, how about Planet Money?

0:03.0

One thing people say about Planet Money is how much they love listening to it,

0:06.0

even though they don't care about business or economics.

0:08.6

It's just a smart show with great stories that help explain your world.

0:12.0

Find Planet Money on the MPR-1 app or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:17.4

Recode Radio presents Recode Decode, coming to you from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:24.4

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Executive Editor of Recode.

0:27.2

You're listening to Recode Decode, a podcast about tech and media's key players,

0:31.1

big ideas, and how they're changing the world we live in.

0:33.7

You can find more episodes of Recode Decode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

0:37.8

Google Play Music, or wherever you listen to your podcasts, or just visit recode.net-slash-podcasts.

0:43.4

For more. Today, we're going to play an interview I did at the Alamo Draft House and San Francisco

0:48.5

on Thursday after screening the new film Blade Runner 2049. I spoke with actor Jared Leto.

0:55.7

Let's take a listen.

1:01.5

All right, so let's get started. Can I ask you some questions? Sure.

1:04.0

Or you can just go on. It's fine. No, it was fun to play the world's first trillionaire.

1:07.9

That was really a blast. Yeah, that was good. So let me ask you, you were saying that this is

1:13.1

the bummer future, essentially. No, no, I didn't say that. It's a good future?

1:17.2

No, I haven't seen the movie, so you got to tell me. Okay.

1:20.4

But I'm assuming from the music editor and the credits, it was slightly dark.

1:24.2

Yes, and you come off. I'm trying to figure out who you were going for here. Were you going for

1:28.8

like Mark Zeperger, Griggs Slash, Travis Kalenick, Slash Larry Ellison? Or what was your...

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