Recode Decode: Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.2 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2019

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his recent New York Times op-ed, "It's Time to Break Up Facebook." In this episode: Why Hughes wrote the column; how he met Mark Zuckerberg; how the 2016 election changed his view of Facebook; Hughes' role in the early days of Facebook; the company's "missionary zeal"; Zuckerberg’s “unchecked power” and reactions to the column; "He cannot fix this"; how the FTC screwed up; Facebook Live; Zuckerberg’s interest in Roman emperors; why has Facebook continually failed to fix itself?; the backlash to Hughes' column; how a government-ordered breakup would work; Instagram and WhatsApp; Should Zuckerberg step down?; the FTC’s $3-5 billion fine; the case for a new digital regulatory agency; Tristan Harris' "human downgrading" theory; and will Zuckerberg listen? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:27.3	Today in the red chair is Chris Hughes, the co-founder of Facebook. He's been on this podcast before to talk about income inequality, but today we're going to talk about a column he published in the New York Times called It's Time to Break Up Facebook, which has caused quite a ruckus in Silicon Valley on Wall Street everywhere. Chris, who I've known for a very long time, welcome back to Recode Decode. Thank you for having me here. So I don't know where to start. Let's start with why you decided to write this. Well, it's been a long time coming for me. So as you said at the top, I've worked on income inequality for a few years now. And a little over a year ago, I published a book.
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