Recode Decode: Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his recent New York Times op-ed, "It's Time to Break Up Facebook." In this episode: Why Hughes wrote the column; how he met Mark Zuckerberg; how the 2016 election changed his view of Facebook; Hughes' role in the early days of Facebook; the company's "missionary zeal"; Zuckerberg’s “unchecked power” and reactions to the column; "He cannot fix this"; how the FTC screwed up; Facebook Live; Zuckerberg’s interest in Roman emperors; why has Facebook continually failed to fix itself?; the backlash to Hughes' column; how a government-ordered breakup would work; Instagram and WhatsApp; Should Zuckerberg step down?; the FTC’s $3-5 billion fine; the case for a new digital regulatory agency; Tristan Harris' "human downgrading" theory; and will Zuckerberg listen? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Sabotage, hired goons and a landfill in Utah.
0:05.0	How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief
0:10.7	second life and then was buried for good.
0:14.8	Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.
0:22.8	Hi, I'm Karr Swisher, editor at Large of Recoad.
0:25.2	You may know me as the sort of person who would make a playlist to break up songs for
0:28.4	Facebook, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recodeco from the
0:32.1	Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:34.0	Today in the red chair is Chris Hughes, the co-founder of Facebook.
0:37.6	He's been on this podcast before to talk about income inequality, but today we're going
0:41.0	to talk about a column he published in The New York Times called It's Time to Break
0:45.3	Up Facebook, which has caused quite a ruckus in Silicon Valley on Wall Street everywhere.
0:50.3	Chris, who I've known for a very long time, welcome back to Recodeco.
0:53.4	Thank you for having me.
0:54.4	So I don't know where to start.
0:56.3	Let's start with why you decided to write this.
0:58.9	Well, it's been a long time coming for me.
1:00.8	So as you said at the top, I've worked on income inequality for a few years now and a little
1:06.2	over a year ago I published a book.
1:08.0	That was a bit my story, but it was also an argument for guaranteed income.
1:12.4	And this is universal.
1:13.4	This is the idea of creating an income floor for everyone.
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