Recode Decode: Dr. Jen Gunter, OB/GYN

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.2 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2018

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Jen Gunter, an OB/GYN and pain medicine physician, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how celebrity wellness brands have been overtaken by "medical conspiracy theories" and dangerous recommendations — for example, that bras cause breast cancer. After Gunter disputed that claim, made by a writer for Gwyneth Paltrow's company, Goop, it accused her of "being in the pocket of big lingerie." She also talks about the larger problems with finding reliable health information online and how regular people without medical degrees can be smarter skeptics of what their doctors say. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:52.0	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Recode.
0:56.0	You may know me as someone who literally can't believe there's a popular company named Goop, but in my spare time I talk tech, and you're listening to Recode Decode from the VOX Media Podcast Network.
1:05.0	Today in the red chair is Dr. Jen Gunter, who's an OB-GYN and pain medicine physician.
1:11.0	But more importantly, she's been a pain in the ass for the wellness industry and I love her for that.
1:15.0	She's written a lot of excellent articles about the truth behind medical claims of companies like Winnith Paltrow's company Goop, which just got featured in The New York Times.
1:23.0	Apparently Jade Eggs aren't supposed to go up there, Jen. Welcome to Recode Decode.
1:28.0	Thanks so much for having me.
1:29.0	I think we'd be talking about Recode Decode, but I'm like, I run the show so I can talk about anything I want.
1:33.0	And you know, I've been aware of what you've been doing for a long time, but not a lot of people were until this interview that Taffy Agner did in The New York Times.
1:41.0	It was an article about Goop, and you were featured in there quite prominently about being a critic.
1:47.0	And I thought this is a really great opportunity to talk about medicine online and a perfect case study for what happens when you have all these online outlets that are pushing stuff.
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