Entrepreneur and Venture for America founder Andrew Yang talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his campaign to be the Democratic nominee in the 2020 presidential race. In this episode: Being "the tech candidate" during the techlash; the the #YangGang; his version of universal basic income, the Freedom Dividend; the challenges of UBI and how to convince people that it's a good idea; job automation and the “robot apocalypse”; why the unemployment rate isn't as low as you think; what will future jobs look like?; Yang's vision of "human-centered capitalism"; Donald Trump's tweets; standing out in the current Democratic field; climate change and the privatized space industry; breaking up tech companies and other forms of regulation; and why does Yang want to be president? Vote for us Recode Decode has been nominated for best technology podcast in this year’s People’s Choice Podcast Awards! Cast your vote for Recode Decode at https://www.podcastawards.com/app/signup before July 31st. One vote per category. Follow us Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), host Andrew Yang (@andrewyang), guest Erica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producer Eric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producer Manny's (@welcometomannys), the San Francisco venue of this live interview More to explore If you haven't already, subscribe to Recode Decode Subscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants Listen to Vox's Ezra Klein interviewing Yang on The Ezra Klein Show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices