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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: "After Truth"

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2020

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Recode's Kara Swisher talks with three of the brains behind the new HBO documentary After Truth: Disinformation and the Cost of Fake News: Director Andrew Rossi, who previously directed Page One: Inside the New York Times; executive producer Brian Stelter, who hosts Reliable Sources on CNN; and co-producer Adam McGill. They discuss how disinformation about everything from coronavirus to #BlackLivesMatter spreads online, the victims of the Pizzagate and Seth Rich conspiracy theories, and why Russian election attackers supported both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. The trio also talks about the corruption of the term "fake news," the effect of Alex Jones being kicked off major online platforms, and what rights people like Hillary Clinton have when they're the subject of an online disinformation campaign. After Truth debuts on March 19 at 9:00 p.m. on HBO, and on-demand on March 20. Featuring: Andrew Rossi (@a_rossi), director, After Truth: Disinformation and the Cost of Fake News Brian Stelter (@brianstelter), executive producer, After Truth: Disinformation and the Cost of Fake News Adam McGill (@NotTheATVRider), co-producer, After Truth: Disinformation and the Cost of Fake News Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Recode. You may know me as the publisher of the world's leading newspaper about snow, the flake news, but in my spare time, I'm just a reporter Eric that was terrible.

1:25.0

And you're listening to Recode D-code, a podcast about power change, and the people you need to know were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:31.0

Today in the red chairs, there are three people, Andrew Rossi, Adam McGill and Brian Stelter, who directed and produced the new documentary for HBO called After Truth Disinformation and the Cost of Life.

1:42.0

And Andrew is the director, Adam is the co-producer, and Brian is the executive producer as well as the chief media correspondent at CNN.

1:51.0

After Truth explains how false stories like the Pizzagate conspiracy make their way from obscure corners of the internet to mainstream outlets like Fox News or your Facebook News Feed, often your Facebook News Feed.

2:01.0

And we're here in the time of coronavirus, so it's a good time to talk about it because a friend of mine just texted me about searching for coronavirus on Facebook.

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And coming up with a lot of really awful stuff, Andrew, Adam, Brian, welcome to Recode D-code.

2:15.0

Thank you. Thank you, Ravi.

2:16.0

Let me start with that. Let's start with you, Andrew.

2:19.0

Let me very quickly, your last big movie was on the, was on with David Carr and talking about The New York Times.

2:25.0

That's right. Page One is a movie about the disruption in traditional journalism.

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Right.

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And I think when we were talking with other folks about the election in 2016 and how the conversation around Truth had changed.

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