Recode Decode: Anand Giridharadas

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2019

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Winners Take All author Anand Giridharadas talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher in this live conversation recorded at Made By We in New York City. In this episode: Why Giridharadas wrote the book; the Sackler family; why “giving back is a wingman of taking ruthlessly”; Mark Zuckerberg’s false image and outsized influence; Andrew Carnegie and the history of billionaire philanthropy; what should the ultra-rich do instead?; what should the government do?; the backlash to Jeff Bezos; Marc Benioff and San Francisco; the 2020 Democrats and "the primary about everything”; Bill McGlashan and the college admissions scandal; the “rise of the rest”; what about Constitutional amendments?; and why Giridharadas is grateful for Donald Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Support for this podcast comes from Unisys.
0:04.0	Sometimes you'll hear people say,
0:05.5	get your head out of the clouds.
0:07.0	Well, Unisys disagrees.
0:09.0	They say, keep your head in the clouds.
0:11.0	Keep dreaming and keep breaking through
0:14.0	by getting your business to the best cloud you can.
0:17.0	Unisys offers app modernization that helps companies move their apps to the cloud,
0:21.0	build new cloud native apps, and unlock powerful insights and performance.
0:25.0	With Unisys Cloud Solutions, the sky is not the limit.
0:29.0	It's just the beginning of unlimited potential.
0:32.0	It's the place where one breakthrough leads to another.
0:35.0	Unisys, keep breaking through.
0:38.0	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Reco.
0:41.0	You may know me as someone who would have been one of the good billionaires
0:44.0	and if you don't believe me, just give me a billion dollars so we can find out.
0:47.0	But in my spare time, I talk tech and you're listening to Reco Decode
0:50.0	from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:53.0	Today, we're going to play a live interview I recently conducted in New York
0:56.0	with Anand Giradadas, who's been on this show before.
0:59.0	He's the author of the book Winners Take All and has been one of the sharpest critics
1:03.0	of how supposedly philanthropic tech billionaires are trying to change the world.
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