When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized.

You do?

Yeah. Did you hear about that?

I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected and we made it the one.

In a sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic.

Nothing in itself is addictive on one hand. And in the hand, everything could be addictive if

there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled. I now know that nobody changes

until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life.

I'm Gwyneth Peltro. This is the Goop Podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture

changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers. Here to start

conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power

to change the way we see the world.

Here we go.

Welcome to the Goop Podcast.

I'm Gwyneth Peltro, and today I'm joined by the brilliant Anna Malika Tubbs, a mother, sociologist,

New York Times bestselling author, an advocate for social equity.

I put mother first because so much of Anna's work is centered on the power of motherhood

and the ways mothers, especially black mothers, have been systemically left out of our cultural

and historical narratives. Her latest book,

Erased, builds on that foundation. It's a deeply researched and eye-opening account of how

women's contributions have been overlooked throughout our country's history and how we can begin to

weave their stories back in with intention. We talk about why selflessness isn't always a virtue,

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