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You know, Paul, I found a rock yesterday, which measured 1,760 yards in length.

Must be some kind of milestone.

I would have gotten there.

All right, Matt.

You ready?

Sure.

Yeah, I've already filled with shame.

So, Matt, jokes about white sugar, they're rare, but jokes about brown sugar, Demerara.

What?

Yeah, Demerara is a type of brown sugar, so that's a requisite part of you actually appreciate that.

I am not familiar with that. Okay.

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I'm Dr. Matthew Frank Wado, here with my great friend and America's primary care physician,

Dr. Paul Nelson Williams. Paul, how's your shame?

It's bad. It's real bad. I hate that this is even on film.

All right. Well, we have a great episode tonight with a great guest. We're talking about

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