Rebecca Zung - USA Today Bestselling Author & U.S. News Best Lawyer | The Top 1% Attorney Who Cracked the Code on Beating Narcissists

Success Story with Scott D. Clary

Success Story Media

How To, Business, Education, Self-improvement

4.6 • 326 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 84 minutes

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➡️ Join 321,000 people who read my free weekly newsletter: https://newsletter.scottdclary.com ➡️ Like The Podcast? Leave A Rating: https://ratethispodcast.com/successstory Rebecca Zung, known as "The Leverage Lawyer™," is a 25-year trial attorney, TEDx speaker, and the creator of SLAY AI™ — the first patented AI platform designed to help people build court-ready leverage in high-conflict custody, divorce, and negotiation situations. Named one of the Best Lawyers in America by U.S. News, she is the USA Today and Amazon bestselling author of SLAY the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win, and has empowered people in more than 100 countries through her online programs to achieve justice, power, and peace. Her insights have been featured in Forbes, Newsweek, Time, the Huffington Post, NPR, and The Mel Robbins Podcast, while her YouTube channel has generated tens of millions of views and her podcast Leverage ranks in the top 0.5% of podcasts globally. Her remarkable rise — from divorced single mother and college dropout to one of the nation's most respected trial lawyers — fuels her passionate mission to equip people with the tools to break free from toxic relationships and win against high-conflict personalities. ➡️ Show Links https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnhT4fBE1OWOn7c0Quxdf4w/ https://x.com/rebeccazung https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-zung-6753893b/ ➡️ Podcast Sponsors Hubspot - https://hubspot.com/ Huel - https://huel.com/scott (Code: scott) The Demand Decoded Podcast - https://www.blendb2b.com/demand-decoded NetSuite - https://netsuite.com/scottclary/ Indeed - https://indeed.com/clary Framer - https://framer.com/design (Code: SuccessStory) LinkedIn Ads - https://linkedin.com/scottclary Wix - https://wix.com/ Priori - https://priori.life/ Notion - https://notion.com/story Mars Men - https://mengotomars.com/ Granola - https://www.granola.ai/success Warby Parker - https://www.warbyparker.com/success CleanMyMac - https://cleanmymac.com (Code: story) ➡️ Talking Points 00:00 – Intro 01:30 – Rebecca’s Origin Story 13:06 – What Blocks Your Potential 16:18 – The Making of a Narcissist 22:18 – Sponsor Break 24:53 – Why Narcissists Are So Difficult 26:55 – Narcissism: Overused or Real? 31:26 – Inside a Narcissistic Relationship 35:34 – How to Spot & Escape Narcissists 39:03 – Lessons from the Ultra-Wealthy 43:24 – Sponsor Break 45:13 – Real Stories with Narcissists 49:17 – Lessons from High-Profile Narcissists 1:01:41 – High Conflict: Business vs Personal 1:03:05 – The Power of Your Circle 1:14:56 – The One Lesson That Matters ➡️ Success Story Podcast - Stories Worth Telling Subscribe & Watch The Full Podcast⁣ - https://www.successstorypodcast.com/ Welcome to the Success Story Podcast, hosted by entrepreneur, business executive, author, educator & speaker, Scott Clary. On this podcast, Scott has candid interviews with entrepreneurs, celebrities, notable figures, and politicians. All who have achieved success through both wins and losses, to learn more about their life, their ideas, and insights. He sits down with leaders and mentors and unpacks their stories to help pass those lessons on to others through both experiences and tactical strategies for business professionals, entrepreneurs, and everyone in between. Website: https://www.scottdclary.com Podcast: https://www.successstorypodcast.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/scottdclary Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottdclary: Twitter: https://twitter.com/scottdclary Facebook: https://facebook.com/scottdclarypage LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdclary

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0:00.0	HubSpot is a success story partner.
0:01.7	Now, think about listening to this podcast right now.
0:04.1	You are probably multitasking.
0:05.6	You are probably catching maybe 70 to 80% of what I'm saying.
0:09.0	Now, flip that and imagine catching only 20%.
0:12.0	It's not a good use of your time.
0:14.3	That'd be insane, right?
0:15.3	But this is the reality for most businesses.
0:17.9	Most businesses only use 20% of their data. That's like reading a book with 80%
0:23.7	of the pages torn out. You are making decisions with a fraction of the picture. All the important
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0:43.2	that actually help you grow your business because when you know more, you grow more.
0:47.7	And when you're running a business on 100% of your data instead of 20, the decisions get
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0:55.9	picture today. A lot of people would say my spouse is a narcissist. So I started studying it because I
1:01.7	wanted to win in the courtroom. Somebody recently said to me, when you chase, you never catch.
1:05.7	So I was chasing, chasing, chasing. What if the key to winning against narcissists wasn't
1:10.3	fighting harder, but negotiating
1:12.0	smarter? Rebecca Zung is a globally recognized negotiation expert and a USA Today best-selling author
1:19.2	who has spent decades mastering high-conflict negotiations. We had this programming. We're born
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