Hello again, this is To the Point. I'm Norman Alvey.

In the studio with me today is a journalist and author Rebecca Traister. Donald Trump's election made her very angry.

Media coverage of the massive women's march on the day after Trump's inauguration made her angrier still. Now she has poured all that

rage as well as fear into a new book, and she's here to talk about that. By way of background,

Rebecca Traster has written for

many magazines. Her previous books include Girls Don't Cry and the bestseller All the Single

Ladies. The latest is Good and Mad, the Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger. Rebecca

Traster, great to have you here on To the Point. It's so great to be here.

You sound like an angry feminist. I am such an angry feminist. Deeply unlikable in so many ways. Yes, I am. I am an angry, I am both angry and a feminist.

What's the goal? The goal is to change the things that are wrong in the world. The goal is to address inequality and make it less. Less inequality?

Yes, make it make it something closer to equal. It's a very long-term project. How do you measure it?

Well, that's a terrific question. I think it's less about precise measurements and more about looking

around at the world and seeing the things that are quite obviously and starkly wrong with it.

The voices that are heard, the voices that aren't heard, the people who are represented,

the people who aren't represented. The ways in which certain populations, bodies, rights, and opportunities

are policed and limited, the degree to which certain groups have power, even not popularly

elected power. I mean, we live in a country right now in which a Republican president was not

elected popularly and yet is having the power to shape a court that in turn is going to shape the law for generations of Americans to come.

Early in the book, you quote Steve Bannon, who says that what you're looking for is the anti-patriarchy society that would undo 10,000 years of history.

He says, the time has come.

Women are going to take over our society.

Did you take him seriously?

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