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The Reason Roundtable

Reason Vs. Breaking Points: Does Big Tech Do More Good Than Harm?

The Reason Roundtable

The Reason Roundtable

Politics, News

4.51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Reason's Robby Soave and Elizabeth Nolan Brown go head to head with Emily Jashinsky and Ryan Grim from Breaking Points in a thought-provoking debate about Big Tech.

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Reason Verses.

0:05.0

Before we get to the main event of the evening,

0:08.0

please welcome to the stage, the man, the myth, the legend, Andrew Heaton.

0:15.0

Hey. Hey, hello, hi, good evening, thank you.

0:27.6

I'm Andrew Hayden, here's what we're going to do.

0:29.6

I'm going to kind of like have a friendly, vaguely funny chat about tech with you while your booze kicks in

0:35.6

so that you're limbered up before they debate it, right?

0:38.3

So we're going to talk about tech. I like tech. I like tech and I think it's ascendant.

0:44.3

And so are nerds. Nerds have won. We have won. Nerds won the war. Like in the 80s, you go back and watch 80s films.

0:51.3

It was like a slur to call somebody a nerd.

0:55.0

And now everybody wants to be a nerd. I like bread. I'm kind of a bread nerd.

0:59.2

Shut up. You like carbs. I own a Jedi rope. I was tired of a guy a couple weeks ago, and he's

1:06.3

really into football, and he apologized. He went, sorry, I'm kind of a sports nerd. And I was like,

1:10.0

shut your appropriating mouth.

1:12.6

In high school, you were dating cheerleaders.

1:15.6

I was building one.

1:18.6

Been a tech guy for a long time.

1:21.6

Do you guys like Twitter?

1:23.6

Yeah.

1:24.6

I'm with a front row.

1:26.6

I don't, I hate Twitter.

1:28.3

I think about that 30, 40 times a day when I check Twitter.

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