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The government growing babies.

Microchips in your anus.

All koala bears are racist.

The ozone layer owes the money. Partions invented turkey stuff. Yeah. I discovered. I discovered that one of the things that sort of turned to

this is your life from sort of like this beloved program into sort of a much more like

people started to doubt it and not like it as much was because they started changing the

programming a little bit right so they started to go for a more like um like traumatic story every time.

Oh, they were raising the stakes.

They raised the stakes.

Which I think television people can't help but do.

It wasn't just a plumber.

It's now we need a plumber with one leg and one eye who's beat all the odds kind of thing.

Right.

And so people started to feel like this got overly sort of like sympathetic and

sort of like cheesy in a contrived way that made them not like the show anymore. And that is

where the shift from true reality television and our version of reality television starts to take shape. Can we, I don't know if you

have, I don't know how research works. Can we pinpoint the executive? Oh. Who said us on this

trajectory because it was one guy. Sometimes they jumped a shark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is one dude being like,

I think we should do something nasty.

Because we've all got network notes. And it was like, hey, take his leg on. Yeah. And then that's how. And then he kept pushing. Yeah. They were like, Dominic, I don't want to do. We found a good guy. And they're like, no, I don't like that guy. No. But his friend, I noticed his friend in the wheelchair.

Bring him to the front.

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