Reality Steve on Taylor Frankie Paul, Bachelor Nation Tea, Breakups & Nick Viall’s Mom-Shaming Blunder — Holiday Hot Takes Included 🎄
After Reality with Courtney Robertson
Courtney Robertson
4.5 • 722 Ratings
🗓️ 11 December 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of After Reality, Reality Steve joins me to dig into the latest Bachelor Nation drama — starting with Taylor Frankie Paul’s headline-making turn as the new Bachelorette. We get into why her casting is shaking up the franchise, the early behind-the-scenes tea, and what this shift says about the future of the show.
We also tackle a few current Bachelor Nation headlines — yes, including a certain podcaster’s recent mom-shaming blunder (looking at you, Nick Viall). Consider this our friendly reminder that if you don’t have something supportive to say… maybe don’t say it on a podcast with millions of listeners.
Plus, I’m sharing my updated take on Mel Owens and Peg — because I’ve officially changed my tune, and I’m prepared to eat a little humble pie over it.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome back to After Reality. It's your host, Courtney Robertson here. And today I've got the one and only reality, Steve, back on. We're going to be dishing about Bachelor Nation Tea, Taylor Frankie Paul's upcoming season, and a few little pop culture things as well. So grab your popcorn. We are going to give you a couple of hot takes, some predictions, |
| 0:21.7 | and I'm excited to hear his thoughts on the future of the franchise as well. Welcome back, |
| 0:27.3 | Steve. How are you doing today? Good. How are you? Getting closer to the holidays. Have you done |
| 0:33.1 | all your Christmas shopping for the kids? No way, right? No. I am like, I thought I was going to get ahead of |
| 0:38.9 | Christmas shopping and I have not, but Amazon has been priming over here. How about you? Are you in the |
| 0:46.1 | holiday spirit this year? I mean, when it comes to me and my family, it's a lot of gift cards. Nobody |
| 0:52.9 | really asks for anything. So we shop for, |
| 0:55.6 | you know, my niece and nephew who you've met. My nephew comes back into town tonight. My niece |
| 1:01.3 | comes back, I think, in a week. And they ask for stuff and they usually get it. |
| 1:17.5 | But we, we don't do a, there isn't like, there are stuff under the tree, but it's, it's a lot more subdued since the kids are older now. |
| 1:20.1 | But back in the day, when they were, you know, the ages that your kids are at, it was |
| 1:23.7 | obviously a huge deal and they would fight over who had the most presence and all that |
| 1:28.5 | stuff. But what is what is the one? What's the one big thing that Waukeen wants and the one |
| 1:36.6 | big thing that Palo wants? Gabriel doesn't count just because he probably doesn't understand. |
| 1:40.5 | He doesn't count. I actually just got him his own little chair for the living room with his name on it. He's going to love it. And I think Santa this year is going to bring one big ticket item. We were looking. I was thinking about a trampoline, but then I was like, they're still a little bit too small. And I don't want to end up at the ER. Yeah, I was going to say dangerous too. Exactly. But I think we might do like a swing set. |
| 2:03.0 | And but then you have to think about, okay, how are we going to set this up at night? And we host |
| 2:08.2 | Christmas Eve at our house for his side of the family. And then we celebrate the next day with my |
| 2:13.2 | family. So yeah, logistically, and they're so expensive, Steve. Does Alberta want to put something like |
| 2:20.0 | that together? Can you get a swing set and just have somebody do it for you? Or can it come made? It's |
| 2:25.4 | sort of just delivered or you have to do it yourself? That is a good question, Steve. I love my husband. |
| 2:31.1 | He's amazing at a lot of things, but he's not, I will say, not the most handy. |
| 2:35.4 | When we had the kids bunk beds delivered, I hired a task rabbit. |
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