Hi, everybody. Welcome to Altacal, and I'm your host, Tane, here with a new episode to talk about the inside reality and America's Next Top Model documentary.

He has so many names that I can't even keep track, but y'all know what I'm talking about.

The documentary about Tyra, that Tara doc.

There you go.

It is.

And I had to have my guest today because we're going to talk about the podcast and she got me to watch that.

But it's Raven from Bitches Better.

Hi, Raven.

How you doing?

I'm great.

I'm so excited to be here to talk about this mess.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you for being on here.

We're taking it out from, you know, the text conversations when we were listening

to the podcast. And the podcast I'm talking about is called the curse of the American top model

by Bridget Armstrong. I really just want her name to say her name right and to give her credit

because she did a fantastic job on that podcast. There I say, it was better than

this three-part documentary on Netflix. The only difference is Tyra was not on there.

There's so much context and it almost feels like you got to listen to it to watch this doc.

I totally agree. That's why I was hoping people would listen to it before they watched.

But if they didn't definitely listen to it after, I don't think that would change how you feel.

But way more information, way more information, more people that were actually involved,

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