REAL TIME HEAL: Long COVID, Fear, and the Nervous System with Marisa Renee Lee

The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Alternative Health, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.9 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Learn how to JournalSpeak ➡️ ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/journalspeak⁠ In today’s episode, I sit down with Marisa Renee Lee for a powerful Real Time Heal conversation about long COVID, chronic symptoms, and the deeper emotional landscape that shapes our experience in the body. Marisa brings a lifetime of resilience and insight—navigating profound loss, high achievement, and now an ongoing healing journey that will feel deeply familiar to so many of you. Together, we explore how fear, control, and the nervous system interact in ways that can keep us stuck, even when we’re doing everything “right.” This conversation is about so much more than symptoms. It’s about learning to loosen the grip of outcome-dependence, understanding what true safety feels like in the body, and beginning to live with more curiosity and self-compassion. Marisa’s honesty makes this a deeply relatable and moving session — and her willingness to go there in real time opens the door for all of us. Marisa’s new book, Waiting for Dawn (April 2026), offers solace for anyone living in uncertainty — longing for pain to subside, grief to soften, and healing to unfold. If this conversation resonates, her work will meet you in a very real and meaningful way. Join us! XOOX n. All The Things: FREE Event: ⁠⁠"INSIDE THE COACHES ROOM" ⁠⁠ - Learn to overcome your resistance - April 17, 2026 at 10AM PST. All ticketholders are eligible for a FREE 20 minute call with a coach! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SUBSCRIBE TO MY NEW SUBSTACK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! So excited about this one :)) Want your questions answered directly by me? 💛 Receive support, guidance, connection, and direct access to me with MEMBERSHIP: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/y7wadt8d⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 COACHING WITH TRAINED COACHES SUPERVISED DIRECTLY BY NICOLE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PLEASE RATE AND REVIEW THE PODCAST HERE TO HELP OTHERS FIND IT!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Producer: Lisa Eisenpresser ~~~~~ SUPPORT: 🟠 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/painfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🟠 Anxiety controlling your life? Try my Freedom From an Anxious Life course GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/anxietyfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🧠 Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💛 Receive support, guidance, connection, and direct access to Nicole with MEMBERSHIP: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/membership⁠ ~~~~ THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN JOIN THE CONVERSATION ON INSTAGRAM 👉 https://www.instagram.com/nicolesachslcsw⁠ SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉 https://podfollow.com/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw⁠ LEARN ABOUT ANNUAL OMEGA RETREAT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉 https://www.yourbreakawake.com/work-with-nicole Podcast music by the beautiful and talented Danielle Furst: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@musicfurst⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:54.5	Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup.
1:02.2	Welcome to the Cure for Chronic Pain podcast with me, Nicole Sacks.
1:08.4	You are here.
1:13.6	Hello, my friends. I hope today is a good day. This is Nicole and you've reached my podcast, The Cure for Chronic Pain.
1:20.6	Let's get to it. You know how I feel about real-time heals. I freaking love them. I love taking what we talk about
1:29.8	in theory and bringing it into real life, into the nuance, into the questions, and the places
1:35.8	where people actually get stuck. And today's conversation, I'm sitting down with someone whose
1:41.0	story is both deeply personal but also incredibly relevant right now.
1:45.5	So today I'm joined by Marissa Renee Lee. She is walking the path of this work and she is also
1:51.6	a writer and advocate and someone who has had to spend a great deal of her life navigating grief
1:57.8	and loss and the complex ways emotional worlds can live in the body.
2:03.4	Marissa has worked at the highest levels, Harvard, Wall Street, the White House,
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