Welcome to the Refine Collective Podcast. I'm your host, Cat Harris.

This podcast is designed to hold space for honest conversations. From purity culture to faith,

sexuality, relationships, identity, culture, deconstruction, and more. My hope is to look

out in the face, be curious, seek God, and ask meaningful questions to address any elephant

in the room with openness, nuance, and grace. I won't pretend to be an expert and definitely

don't have all the answers. And though it may feel easier and more comfortable to exist

in the black and white, I invite you to discover God with me in the gray and unexpected spaces.

So whoever you are, whatever you do or don't believe, you are welcome here and have a seat

at this table. Make sure you're subscribed to the Refine Collective Podcast on iTunes,

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Welcome to the Refine Collective Podcast. I am your host, Kat Harris, a special shout out and

thank you to new Stan studio at One Rock Center in New York City. Thank you so much for producing

and sponsoring this episode of my podcast. Be sure and follow along with what they're up to

on Twitter at Rock Center NYC or at Rockefeller Center on the Instagrams. Also, thank you

to my Patreon community for your incredible continued support. If you are interested in joining

my Patreon community, you can join for as little as $3 a month. And what do you get access to?

I'm so glad you asked. You get access to over 50 exclusive VIP interviews and videos that I

have recorded. And also you get access to the podcast a week before it's live on iTunes,

which is super cool. And then also this year I started a new thing where I do a free group

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