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The Daily Beast Podcast

Real Reason Trump Is Never Going to Recover: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

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4.68.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Go to https://zbiotics.com/BEAST and use BEAST at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. ZBiotics is backed with a 100% money back guarantee. Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles as Donald Trump escalates his most dangerous bluff yet, threatening destruction on a scale not seen since World War II while cornered by a war he promised never to start. The threats grow louder as the options shrink: Iran tightens its grip on the Strait of Hormuz, global oil jitters mount, and the “no forever wars” president finds himself trapped by the war he started. Wolff argues the chaos is compounded by a shrinking circle of loyalists stripped of agency, a jittery JD Vance being quietly positioned to absorb blame, and a MAGA world already bracing for the political fallout. Wolff suggests this is most likely the beginning of his end: A president escalating because he’s cornered and a split base calling for mutiny. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

And he's rightly cornered.

0:02.0

He doesn't know what to do because no one knows what to do.

0:06.0

He's gotten himself into a situation that he can't get out of.

0:10.0

The no forever wars president is right now trapped very clearly in a forever war.

0:18.0

On a tipping point scale, this is very much, very clearly, I think, indisputably,

0:26.7

the beginning of the end.

0:31.9

Michael.

0:32.9

Joanna.

0:34.1

What's happening, man? What's happening? We're recording this on Tuesday morning.

0:38.1

The president has thrown out lots of ultimatums.

0:41.2

Well, it's possible that the world is ending.

0:43.4

Well, I would just like to say that...

0:44.3

I mean, it is, I mean, essentially Donald Trump is right now, as we speak, threatening to end the world.

0:53.6

I mean, civilization, I think in his words,

0:56.7

civilization as at least the Iranian people know it. So we are at a moment, a critical moment

1:05.7

in which he is essentially saying, I'm going to go further in warfare than we have gone since the Second World War.

1:18.6

This, I mean, I don't think any American president, I'm not sure any leader, Putin possibly, but the exception of Putin, has ever been this explicit

1:32.5

in his intention to create a level of destruction that the world has not seen in a very, very long time.

1:47.1

So this is like, let's not hold back here.

1:52.8

Now, this is Donald Trump, so we have no idea what's going to happen and he can scamper away

2:00.0

any second.

2:01.2

But right now at this juncture, it's sort of could be darkness at noon.

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