Real Reason My Uncle Trump Renamed Kennedy Center

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🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Mary Trump joins Joanna Coles to explain how Donald Trump’s accelerating cognitive and psychological decline is rooted in a childhood defined by cruelty, fear, and the absolute ban on showing weakness. Drawing on her training as a clinical psychologist and her firsthand experience inside the Trump family, Mary argues that Trump’s belligerence is routinely mistaken for strength, even as his physical health, cognitive deterioration, and untreated pathology collide. The conversation ends with a stark question: What happens when a country is governed by a man trying to fill a void that can never be filled?

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0:00.0	He is constantly trying to fill a void that cannot be filled.
0:06.6	And the reason is actually pretty simple.
0:10.7	My grandfather and my grandmother rendered Donald unlovable.
0:16.6	The only thing, the thing he most desperately wants in his life is to be loved, he never has been sufficiently, he never will be.
0:24.9	So everything else, the money, the power, putting his name on everything, that is all in service to filling a black hole that is unfilable.
0:37.1	I'm Joanna Coles. This is the Daily Beast podcast. And imagine spending your family
0:42.7	holidays with Donald Trump. Well, we're going to be speaking to Mary Trump, who did just that.
0:47.7	She grew up receiving gifts from Ivana and Donald. And you'll be very surprised and slightly cringe at what they gave her.
0:58.1	But we're also going to be talking about his mental health. And that moment when Mary Trump
1:04.1	saw him recently in the White House and recognized his expression, because it was the expression that her grandfather had as he was
1:15.0	beginning to lose it later in life. She's a clinical psychologist, so she brings not only
1:21.1	her family experiences, but a clinical academic framework through which to understand them. We're going to be talking about
1:29.2	Donald Trump's treatment of women, his mental health, and whether or not any of his children
1:34.7	will succeed him. So, no time to waste. Let's get into it. Mary Trump, thank you so much for
1:41.1	joining us. So can we talk about his mental health?
1:46.9	Or lack thereof, yes.
1:48.5	Yes, we do.
1:49.3	Well, you've been talking about this a lot on your own media channel,
1:54.7	our Mary Trump media.
1:56.0	And last time you were on the podcast, you talked about having a moment where you saw Donald Trump in the White House and you suddenly recognized a look he had in his eyes that you recognized from your grandfather.
2:11.2	Yeah.
2:11.5	Who also, or who had dementia, who was diagnosed with dementia.
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