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discovery session to see if it's a good fit for you. Just go to Ryancleveland.com to another episode of Real Hawk Talk. I am Brian Nemhouser and I'm joined by two of my

favorite co-hosts who famously famously are unable to actually work with computer equipment,

even though both of them work in the technology industry, Evan Hill at Evan Hill, H.B. AndB, and Nathan Ernst at Nathan E11. I wish you all could have seen what I just got to witness.

It was, it was so fun. I almost went live just so you could see Nathan banging around his computer

and his microphone, like a 70-year-old man, trying to figure out how to dial up the old internet.

It was worse than that, because all I had to do was figure out how to screw the screw in.

And all of my IKEA inadequacies were starting to, I was getting a little frustrated.

This was like me trying to build a shelf or something and nothing works.

And I just got a screw and a dang screw.

Why doesn't it work?

So yeah, it was great.

But hey, we, uh, we did it.

We did it.

We did.

We made it.

We made it.

Evan, you know, the last time, the last time I saw you, I think, um, you were letting

Nathan know that not only was Gray's able still available,

but he was the selection of the Seattle Seahawks. How are you doing? Has your voice recovered

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