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already gotten it, you can get my book. We did not care. Number five on the New York Times bestseller list, at least at one point. Talkblogger.com slash book, if you want that. And we got the crew. We got, we didn't get the full OG crew. Nathan's being a good dad. We were proud of him for that. He'll be with us tomorrow night for the draft show.

But in this episode, that's brought to you by prize picks, we've got Evan Hill and Jeff Simmons.

And I've got a few little surprises for them.

A few little surprises for you all.

I will warn everybody at the outset.

There is going to be some language in this episode.

You should know that as soon as Evan's on any show, there's going to be some language,

but I can guarantee there's going to be some language in this episode.

So just be ready, prepare your little ones, earmuffs, all that good stuff.

Evan, man, good to see you, dude. How you've been?

I am doing so well. It's good to see you guys. I feel like every time I disappear from the show and I return every couple of months because that's what I feel like I am at this point. This show somehow gets more and more professional. Did you ever think you would be spitting out, not spitting out, but did you ever think you'd be sharing like a hawk blogger.com slash book URL at the top of the podcast? Like when we rewind

to like episode number two with HP webcam like 720 on the bottom right, did you ever think like

I just had a flashback to that URL and I just, it's incredible. It's incredible. What a year. What a season. I'm still kind of soaking in everything that happened in February and January. And it's just good to see you guys. Yeah, Jeff. I mean, how, what's the rough amount of time that passes between when Evan sends a message to our group chat?

I can't believe that friggin happened that they won the Super Bowl. How did that happen? It's like he just realizes it every like few days.

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