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Boys, like, I feel like we deserve some cigars.

Like, I feel like we should be kicking back this week and just

enjoying a bye week. How are you doing, Evan? I'm doing well. I don't know about you guys, Jeff.

I know, Brian, you're you're doing this thing full time now, but the last day I did work before Monday was December 19th. So,

you know, I've been off for a couple of weeks and the Seahawks were consuming my thoughts,

you know, returned to work in normal life on Monday after, you know, a pretty thrilling couple

Seahawks weeks. And it feels like returning to life is just like this onslaught

and trying to like balance all the news that's happened in the NFL world

over the past 48 hours.

Jeff was just saying like if you miss an hour,

it feels like you've missed like a decade worth of, you know,

football developments.

And yeah, I mean, 48 hours ago we were, you know, discussing or I mean, maybe, maybe 96

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