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You have heard more from me than you ever will need to hear.

And so thank God.

Thank God.

We've got some fresh faces with you, Evan Hill at Evan Hill, at Evan H.B.

Nathan Ernst at Nathan E. 11.

Because I know when the two of those guys get together,

they are going to start screaming at each other, and I can just sit back and drink some water

and watch it all happen. So that's my goal tonight is to instigate as best as possible. Evan,

how are you doing? I'm doing so well. Are you tanning? Because you look, you look particularly tan. Or is it the lighting?

It's probably a little bit of both. I'm certainly not or nor will I ever go tanning. I should

because I am a very pasty white dude. Like that's- I just meant like sunshine training camp.

Oh yeah. I'm I've been golfing and biking back and forth from training camp and standing out in the sun.

So, yeah, I definitely am getting, I am using the sunscreen and all that good stuff.

But, you know, I'm slowly getting some color.

I know you got an intro Nathan in a second, but how have your shorts been received?

The real news. The real news is breaking news. People need to know this. Like, Evan has been

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