Hello and Rick is a clinical psychologist and best-selling author who spent over 35 years teaching people the key

lessons from psychology and contemplative practice that lead to a good life.

I'm also happy to say that he happens to be my dad so dad how are you doing today?

I'm actually doing really well while deep down inside and this is something I'm eager to talk

with Sharon about is this profound feeling of unease.

It's like surface okayness, you know, there is enough water, the groceries are here,

underneath it all. Whoa, like the animal belly just feels like

something is really shaky and wrong. Yeah I think that that's an experience that a lot of people can probably empathize with these days.

And as you said yourself, today we have the pleasure of welcoming one of the most prominent teachers of mindfulness in the west to the show,

Sharon Salzburg.

Sharon has been teaching meditation for over 45 years

and is one of the co-founders of the Insight Meditation Society

alongside Jack Cornfield and Joseph Goldstein. She's had a truly enormous

influence on the spread of ideas related to Buddhism in the West, including mindfulness,

meditation, and meta, or Kindness. She's also the New York Times best-selling

author of 10 books and the host of the fantastic Meta-hour podcast. Her 11th book, Real Change, Mindfulness to Heal Ourselves and The World comes out September 1st.

It is a wonderful book that teaches us how to embody the fundamental principles of mindfulness,

so that we might have the generosity, courage, and energy

required to engage these challenging times and hopefully create a better world.

So Sharon, it's great to have you here with us today. How are you doing?

I'm doing well. Thank you. It's great to be here with you.

So Sharon, I know you as a teacher, as a friend, and as someone I admire enormously for your sustained

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