Hello and welcome to Mind of Micah today part five of the insane story about how one

man tried to build a DMT based cult on Reddit and lost everything.

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Let's start it out what he started out wanting to do was educate people Craig Cantelmo

told me and I think he started to buy into the whole persona he created on Reddit.

Hall said Cantelmo ultimately wanted to open people's eyes to DMT break down some of

the stigmas behind it and instigate research.

I don't necessarily agree with some of the sentiment that people were thinking he wanted

to be a cult leader.

I think those memes or whatever on Reddit serve a purpose.

I think to him it was like the ends justify the means.

I spoke some I spoke to did feel he ultimately wanted to start a cult even if it was a seed

planted in his mind on Reddit.

It's tricky ascribing intent and determining what's real and there are some vagaries to

what a cult mediated through the internet actually means now.

His docs friends said don't get me wrong Chris wanted to build a cult.

I think Chris wanted to build a church and a compounded shit.

But that was just like you know thrown out there.

Cantelmo seems to reference that church online his followers encompassed various degrees

of partisanship but most were in it for the money or the awards.

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