Welcome back to Inside the Hive. This is your co-host, Joe Hagen. It is August, dog days

of August. I am technically on vacation, but I have returned to alert you that we are

in reruns for this week. We're coming back at you next week with fresh stuff, but we

want to remind you that we have an entire archive of still very relevant interviews and

very fantastic interviews. This week we're bringing you an interview I did with our very

own Nick Bilton, who was the founder of this podcast inside the Hive back in October

of last year, a highly relevant, sadly, conversation about social media. Nick has been

covering social media for several years. He's read books about it. He did an amazing documentary

that was on HBO about influencers. Today, you're going to hear this interview we did really

about the power and the dangers of social media. The title of the original podcast is the

only winning move is not to play. This is a conversation that I think we'll be having

for an entire generation. This is why this conversation remains relevant and why I think

you're going to enjoy it. Sit back, enjoy. If you're on vacation yourself, this is a good

time way to relax. Just close your eyes, but if you're driving, keep them open. Enjoy

this week's podcast and we'll be back Emily Jane Fox and I next week with some fresh

interviews for you. Today, very special day, we have back with us right here, the OG, the

original host of Inside the Hive. Aren't you supposed to curse when you say OG, like the

mother fucking OG or like isn't supposed to I like that you're using the the MF word right off

the bat, like, you know, not even giving the listener time to hide the children. We are here

today. We're going to talk about a specialty of yours, at least as a reporter, social media,

something you have covered for years, done documentaries about, written books about and that

obviously is in the news right now for reasons we're going to talk about. I just want to start off

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