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🗓️ 4 August 2023
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of iWay with Jameela, a podcast against shame. |
| 0:05.2 | We are playing an old chat that I want to make sure everyone's heard, sometimes I have |
| 0:12.1 | a chat and a guest who is so extraordinary that I panic at the idea that I didn't promote |
| 0:17.1 | it enough at the time or not enough people found it or maybe you need to hear it again |
| 0:22.1 | and this is one of those episodes. |
| 0:24.5 | It is with the fabulous psychotherapist that is Esther Perrell, truly one of my favourite |
| 0:29.4 | human beings on the planet. |
| 0:30.6 | I was so honoured that she came onto this podcast and she has her own podcast called Where |
| 0:36.4 | Should We Begin and season 2 is just about to start up and so this felt like a nice |
| 0:41.8 | time to remind you how fucking brilliant she is and in this chat we're covering how |
| 0:48.8 | everyone's feeling now that the world has kind of returned to normal, what's happened |
| 0:53.3 | to relationships, what's happened to our anxiety, communal living, my communal living, |
| 0:59.0 | I give away quite a lot about my own life in this episode, we talk about polyamory, we |
| 1:05.1 | talk about the fact that cheating doesn't have to be the end of a relationship, we talk |
| 1:10.0 | about how expectations of marriage have changed over the past hundred years, there's just |
| 1:15.4 | so much in this chat, she is so full of wisdom and she has an approach towards everything |
| 1:22.2 | that is more nuanced than any other public figure who speaks in this area that I have |
| 1:27.4 | come across at least and so I hope you enjoy this, maybe you need to hear it right now, |
| 1:34.0 | send it to anyone who does, but for now this is the unfucking believable, Esther Perrell. |
| 1:58.4 | Esther Perrell, welcome to my way, how are you? Thank you so much for having me, I'm |
| 2:03.6 | fine, how are you? I'm good, it's very surreal to have you here on the podcast, I've been |
| 2:09.2 | watching you online for such a long time, I'm a really big fan and a huge, huge admirer |
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