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American Prestige

Re-Post - The Global Turn of American Policing w/ Stuart Schrader

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

News, History, Politics

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2026

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Originally published August 31, 2025. Danny and Derek speak with historian Stuart Schrader about the global history of American policing and how US police power has been shaped by struggles both at home and abroad. They discuss police opposition to oversight in the 1960s, the development of the Border Patrol and ICE, Joe Biden’s “tough on crime” record, Trump’s plan to outsource detention, the ways counterterrorism blurred into immigration enforcement, and the resistance on display in Los Angeles this summer. Read Stuart’s book Badges without Borders: How Global Counterinsurgency Transformed American Policing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, Prestige Heads, and welcome to American Prestige.

1:10.0

Here, as always, with my friend and comrade, Derek Davison, and I am extremely excited to welcome to the podcast today. My old friend, we've known each other a long time now, Stuart. Stuart Schrader. Stuart is the author of Badges Without Borders, and he's also an associate professor of history and the director of the

1:27.5

Chloe Center for the Critical Study of Racism, Immigration, and Colonialism at Johns Hopkins University.

1:33.1

And we've invited him to talk about all things, police, ICE, and all of the things that have been

1:38.3

going on with the security state, I don't know, in the last 70 or so years. So, Stuart, thanks very

1:42.6

much for joining us.

1:45.1

Glad to be here.

1:48.2

So there's a lot of different places to start.

1:50.9

But why don't we start really with Badges Without Borders?

1:54.0

And if anyone hasn't picked up this book, pick it up, Stuart.

1:58.0

I always have the Stuart Schrader footnote in my articles. And it's like, for the police and IRC, Stewart-Trader. So it's a classic

2:04.3

footnote, and it's really one of those books. That's what I call a reading list book. It is foundational,

2:09.9

really important work that examines the origins of modern American policing. So before we get into what's going on today, why don't we start there?

2:19.9

And you can really start wherever you think best to help people understand what's going on with the police,

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