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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Re-Consecrate Everything (feat. Barbara Brown Taylor)

Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8748 Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

How do you create harmony in your life?  Can Christianity inspire us to focus on what kind of human we want to be—instead of trying to prove we’re right?  In this episode, Barbara Brown Taylor returns to the show for a continuing conversation about the necessary and profound work of reconsecrating our lives—spiritually and ecologically. As Brian explains, “You can leave Christianity, but Christianity won’t leave you. Christianity must be recycled, redeemed, and reconsecrated to be transformed.” Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. Throughout this season, as questions or thoughts arise, we'd love to hear from you. You can contact us by leaving a voicemail or emailing us at podcasts@cac.org

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0:00.0

There is no away, environmental activist Annie Leonard says.

0:08.2

When you throw something away, it goes somewhere.

0:12.4

Once this simple insight hits you, you realize what a myth our culture has built itself

0:17.2

upon.

0:18.7

The movement of domination and exploitation that has told us, if we don't

0:23.1

like something, we can simply kill it, banish it, incarcerate it, incinerate it,

0:27.5

ignore it, bury it, or otherwise throw it away, and it will be gone for good. But as James

0:34.2

Baldwin realized, what is true of things in space is also true of time itself,

0:39.9

he said, history is not the past, it is the present.

0:44.5

We carry our history with us.

0:47.4

We are our history.

0:50.1

If we pretend otherwise, we are literally criminals.

0:54.0

We can't, in other words, simply erase the past and throw it away.

0:57.0

Similarly, Dr. King realized that we can't throw our enemies away.

1:02.0

If we hate and kill our enemies, if we marginalize and ghettoize them,

1:07.0

even if we attempt genocide against them,

1:10.0

we will create thousands more as their relatives,

1:14.2

descendants and friends, not to mention our own descendants, forever despise us for what we have done.

1:21.2

The only way to get rid of our enemies is to turn them into friends, as Dr. King said.

1:27.9

He said, love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend.

1:33.0

We never get rid of an enemy by meeting hate with hate.

1:36.2

We get rid of an enemy by getting rid of enmity.

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