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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Find the Flow (feat. Jacqui Lewis)

Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8748 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

What gets you into the flow?   Rev. Jacqui Lewis joins Brian again in conversation to envision a new way of living Christianity in this episode talking about the 24th chapter, Find the Flow. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. Throughout this season, as questions or thoughts arise, we'd love to hear from you. You can contact us by leaving a voicemail or emailing us at podcasts@cac.org

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0:00.0

What would it mean for us if we happen to live during the decline of the old humanity,

0:08.9

when a new humanity is in the painful, fragile process of being born?

0:15.9

What if some of us are in the process of trying to resuscitate the old, while others of us are

0:23.5

conceiving, gestating, and giving birth to the new?

0:28.7

What if the growth of the new movement, the new humanity, the new social creation or

0:35.0

construction depends on the old one losing its hegemony. As I write those words,

0:43.7

I can't help it feel a flood of resonances with the Hebrew scriptures. I feel echoes of Isaiah,

0:50.6

speaking of God doing a new thing, something fresh springing forth, so that there will

0:56.0

be good news for the poor, recovery of sight for the blind, freedom for the incarcerated

1:01.3

and oppressed. Oppression of the poor is one of the hallmarks of the old humanity. I hear the

1:10.0

prophet imagining a promised time when weapons are recycled

1:14.3

into farm equipment because nobody studies war anymore. War is one of the hallmarks of the old humanity.

1:23.0

I hear Ezekiel's oracle about a new heart, a heart of flesh that replaces the heart of stone.

1:30.9

The hardening of hearts in the name of self-interest and in-group interest is a hallmark of the old

1:37.4

humanity. I hear Amos envisioning a time when a river of justice rolls down from the heights, filling the lowest

1:46.9

places first.

1:49.1

A concentration of power and wealth at the top is a hallmark of the old humanity.

1:54.9

I hear Micah relativizing everything in his religion except doing justice, loving kindness, and walking humbly

2:03.7

before God. Hoarding power, loving money, and walking in racial, religious, or national pride

2:10.1

are hallmarks of the old humanity. In the Christian scriptures, I hear Mary envisioning a time

2:17.1

when the rich are sent away to feel the hunger of the poor they have exploited and avoided, a time when the poor are filled with the good things previously enjoyed only by the rich.

2:28.6

I hear Jesus speaking parables of a new kingdom, of death and resurrection, of God loving the world and wanting

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