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Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! | Greek Mythology & the Ancient Mediterranean

RE-AIR: Not With a Bang, but a Whimper, the Collapse of the Bronze Age Mediterranean

Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! | Greek Mythology & the Ancient Mediterranean

Liv Albert

Comedy, History, Arts

4.65.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This episode originally aired in April 2024 during our series on the Bronze Age Collapse. A brief look at the causes behind the societal collapse of the Bronze Age Mediterranean. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content!

CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.

Sources: The Landmark Thucydides edited by Robert B. Strassler, translated by Richard Crawley; The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean edited by Eric H. Cline; 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed by Eric Cline.

Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.

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0:34.1

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0:49.0

The late return of the Hellenes from Ileon caused many revolutions and factions ensued almost everywhere, and it was the citizens thus driven into exile who founded the cities.

0:55.2

Sixty years after the capture of Ileon, the modern beotians were driven out of Arne by the Thessalians,

1:02.0

and settled in the present Beosha, the former Cadmian land.

1:05.9

Though there was a division of them there before, some of whom joined the expedition to Ileon. 20 years later,

1:12.6

the Dorians and the Heraclids became masters of the Peloponnesus, so that much had to be done

1:18.5

and many years had to elapse before Hellas could attain to a durable tranquility, undisturbed

1:24.9

by removals, and could begin to send out colonies, as Athens did to Ionia and

1:30.9

most of the islands, and the Peloponnesians to most of Italy and Sicily and some places in the

1:36.8

rest of Hellas. All these places were founded subsequently to the war with Troy.

2:16.0

Music subsequently to the war with Troy. Well, hi, hello, welcome. This is Let's Talk About Myths, baby, and I am your host,

2:20.7

live here with the beginning of the end of the Bronze Age,

2:27.1

a look into the so-called collapse of not only the Minoan and Mycenaean people of ancient Greece,

2:38.2

but the wider ancient Mediterranean. What makes a collapse, though, really? The word itself is an accurate descriptor of what happened, but it carries with it this desire to make the collapse of these cultures into something, if not bigger and more dramatic,

2:43.5

then certainly at least mysterious.

2:47.3

The idea of a collapse, the end of these once great people, lends itself to the history bros who blend fact with conspiracy and pseudo-history, or to the conspiracies more directly.

2:59.5

It lends itself to the idea that the end of these people was a mystery to be solved, that they simply disappeared from human existence only to be replaced by an

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