RE-AIR: Conversations: A Long and Storied History of Sparta, Modern Misuse & Misconception w/ Stephen Hodkinson
Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! | Greek Mythology & the Ancient Mediterranean
Liv Albert
4.6 • 5.6K Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
This episode originally aired as part of the Spartan Mirage series, in January 2023. It's time we listen and learn (again). Liv speaks with Stephen Hodkinson, expert in all things Sparta. They discuss Sparta throughout history including its use in politics from the founding of the USA to Nazi Germany to modern day misuses of Spartan culture and history. Read more about Sparta and the Capitol insurrection (and so much more Sparta content!) here. Read the book, Classical Controversies, for free here. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content!
CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.
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| 0:34.1 | Thanks and happy listening. |
| 1:20.1 | Music description. Thanks and happy listening. Hello, this is let's talk about myths, baby, and I am your host, Live, and I am here with a re-airing episode today. It was supposed to be new. Michaela's going to take you all back to Herodotus, I think, |
| 1:26.6 | really soon, or the Hellenistic series, I should probably |
| 1:30.8 | know, but here we are. But the poor woman is ill, and we didn't have anything prepared. So, |
| 1:39.8 | this is a re-airing. But I also want to say that it is meant to be relevant. I went through and I |
| 1:50.6 | thought I would look for like what episodes I've done on tyranny and rebellion and revolution. |
| 2:00.8 | And it turns out I've just already reared them fairly recently because everything keeps being super relevant. |
| 2:09.0 | So instead I thought I would continue on with the theme that we had last week, |
| 2:14.6 | which is looking at the ways that white supremacy is attracted to the ancient |
| 2:22.1 | world and the way that they use it. On Friday, if everything goes to planned, I will have |
| 2:31.1 | an impromptu conversation with the women and the partial historians |
| 2:34.9 | who I've asked to come talk to us about imperial triumphs of Rome and particularly the triumphal |
| 2:47.5 | arches that they built and why. |
| 2:52.7 | Really, it's all about propaganda. |
| 2:55.2 | Let's remember that. |
| 2:57.6 | And so today I just want to share this episode from a few years back with Stephen |
| 3:02.3 | Hodkinson about white supremacy and Sparta really specifically. |
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