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🗓️ 14 October 2022
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to Conversations. I'm very pleased to be joined today by Ray |
0:19.6 | Takay, Senior Fellow at the Council of Foreign Relations. One of the really leading experts on Iran, |
0:26.4 | here in the United States, historian with a doctorate from Oxford, the author several important |
0:32.7 | books, and I would say for a layman like me and most of our viewers and listeners are very |
0:38.8 | accessible books. Those serious scholarly books on modern Iran. The most recent one is the last |
0:47.2 | Shah, America, Iran, and the fall of the Palavi dynasty, which includes very interesting |
0:52.9 | reconsideration of the 1953 coup in Iran. I think Ray did a lot of archival research for that, |
0:59.0 | and I'm proud of the way we published one of the articles, an article by Ray that was kind of |
1:03.1 | an early glimpse at some of that. He's the co-author with Eric Edelman, who's been on this kind of |
1:09.1 | these conversations several times of a book in just three, four years ago, Revolution at Aftermath, |
1:15.9 | forging a new strategy toward Iran. So, Ray, thanks for joining us today. Thanks very much for having |
1:22.5 | now. It's great to have you, and of course, Iran. So, I mean, let's just dive right in. I mean, |
1:28.4 | what's happening there? Obviously, very dramatic, very moving scenes from Iran. How should we |
1:35.0 | understand what's happening? How serious it is? Is it different? Is it from previous failed, |
1:39.6 | unfortunately, efforts to shake the, the, the, the, the Ayatollah's regime there? |
1:46.3 | Well, these protests are more serious than the previous ones, because they tend to encapsulate |
1:54.9 | all the previous grievances within the catalytic event that sparked all of this was the death of |
2:02.4 | Miss Amini in custody in early mid-September by the morality police for her headscarf. |
2:10.8 | But these are not female emancipation protests, although they are that. They tend to be |
2:16.4 | political grievances, economic grievances, cultural grievances, religious mist. And they have essentially |
2:23.0 | the the female emancipation issue has essentially become |
2:29.2 | a umbrella under which all other forms of grievances are inexperienced. |
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