Rasul A. Mowatt & Too Black (P2): Building movements and navigating funding in systems of complicity
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
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🗓️ 27 August 2024
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
What does it actually mean to build “movements” — understanding this word not as a loose terminology overarching certain causes but as a substantive call for intentionally spun and co-conspired webs of relations? How can clarifying the words we use around organizing help to prevent co-optation and dilution? And how do we navigate the paradox of needing funding from often “dirty” sources in order to get by — while simultaneously attempting to subvert the underlying structures of power themselves?
In this part 2 of our conversation with Rasul A. Mowatt and Too Black of Laundering Black Rage (tap into part 1 here), we continue to sink in more deeply to unravel our entanglement in systems of exploitation.
Join us as we learn about what it means to tether ourselves to “organizations” beyond feeding into the optics of collective action; how we can practice “reverse laundering” to help funnel more resources towards “illegitimate” places of need; how to disentangle movement building from cycles of electoral politics; and more.
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| 0:54.0 | You know, we're probably obsessive about it, but, you know, just making sure the definitions |
| 0:57.9 | are clear for the listeners. |
| 1:00.3 | I think movements get thrown around. |
| 1:02.9 | And again, since we are talking about things being laundered and co-opted, like part of it |
| 1:07.7 | is just not being clear. |
| 1:09.8 | Like I was saying earlier, it's just not having a clear sense of what we're up against what we're dealing with. |
| 1:21.3 | You're listening to Green Dreamer and I'm your host, Kamehashane. |
| 1:25.9 | Today we are continuing into part two of our two-part conversation with Rasul Mowat and Two Black, |
| 1:33.2 | the co-authors of laundering black rage, the washing of black death, people, property, and profits. |
| 1:40.4 | If you haven't yet, we invite you to first tune into part one right before this episode where we introduce the concept of laundering black rage, how we all participate in these systems of laundering, and the different ways that co-optation might take place, including through the realm of the arts. |
| 1:57.6 | We continue in this episode talking about navigating funding while being wary of |
| 2:02.1 | co-optation, what to keep in mind during election season, getting clear on what movements |
| 2:07.7 | actually refer to, and how that can more intentionally situate our contributions and efforts |
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