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Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration

Rasul A. Mowatt & Too Black (P1): Exposing the laundering of Black rage

Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration

Kaméa Chayne

Earth Sciences, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.8694 Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

What does it mean to understand laundering in the context of how Black rage often gets converted to fit the interests of capital — against the very people experiencing that anger as a response to state violence? How do we remain cautious of different forms of co-optation, including through the arts, that end up distancing people from the material conditions that originally sparked the rage?

In this part one of our two-part conversation, we are honored to welcome the co-authors of Laundering Black Rage, Rasul A. Mowatt and Too Black — who guide us to critically reflect on key happenings in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd — and more recently, the murder of Sonya Massey.

Join us in this vital and sobering dialogue as we discuss how activism for social causes is often subverted, redirected, and laundered into forms deemed palatable by the state — only to be fed back into reinforcing the system itself. We also explore how cities, to be distinguished from “society”, are set up inherently as sites of extraction — enforcing complicity by design.

How do we confront our entanglement in such processes of laundering — while staying focused on the types of efforts that can more directly address the sources of systemic harm?

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0:54.0

Reason why we're saying that rage is not enough is that then what are you then going

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to do or in response to that issue?

1:03.0

And so anything that is farther from the actual response to what the actual issue that

1:09.0

produced the rage opens the doorway for the laundering.

1:19.8

You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamehashane. Today, we are honored to welcome

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Rosul Mowat and Two Black.

1:30.3

Rosol is the son of Chicago and a subject of empire, while dwelling within notions of statelessness,

1:38.3

settler colonial mentality, and anti-capitalism. He functions in the state currently as a professor at North Carolina State

1:46.6

University, previously at Indiana University, and he's the author of The Geographies of Threat

1:53.3

and the Production of Violence, the State and the City Between Us. Two Black is a poet, scholar, organizer, and filmmaker who blends critical

2:04.1

analysis with biting sarcasm. He's also the host of the Black Myths podcast, a member of the

2:11.2

Defense Committee to free up the Pendleton 2, and the co-director of the documentary film The Pendleton 2. They stood up.

2:19.7

Together, Rasul and Two Black are co-authors of the book, Lundering Black Rage, The Washing of Black Death,

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