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There were these massive protests against the automobile, you know, in the early 1900s,

where thousands of parents and children would go out in the streets and hold these events

called safety parades, where they're basically calling the car kind of an instrument of the devil.

And Ford and GM and the other car companies,

and they've got good lobbyists, you know, and they basically wrote letters to editors and

captured the political discourse and basically helped the car conquer American civic life.

You're listening to Green Dreamer and I'm your host, Kamehashane.

Today we're speaking with Ben Goldfarb, an independent conservation journalist who we actually

had on the show a few years ago to talk about his book, Eager, the surprising secret

life of beavers and why they matter. We are honored to welcome him back a second time to talk

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